Everyon knows the SOP for loot rules in non-DKP (Dragon Kill Point ) informal raids:
Need - for main spec
Greed - for everything else
And it works. Mostly. There's one small addition I'd like to see roll order be:
- Need - main spec
- If noone rolled need - off-specs can roll need
- Greed to sell
I've been in a couple raids that allowed this, and I think it's neat. But because the "uninterested" folks (ie, the ones not rolling need) are potentially losing out on vendoring (or sharding or possibly auctioning) the items, I think some compensation should be "encouraged".
SO I have a proposal:
1 - Need for your main spec
2 - If noone rolls need, then the option to roll for off-spec
BUT - if you win, you should give each member a portion of the potential gold they lost. I think most blue & purple items vendor for 10-15 gold, I think it would be reasonable to require the "off spec Needer" to pay each raid member 5 gold. (for a 5 man raid)
This ensures a couple things:
1 - I honestly think that gearing everyone's off-spec is a more worthwhile goal, than simply getting lots of "useless" items vendored.
2 - Since each person is getting real gold for each of these (and slighlty above vendor price, divvied up) I think it potentially works BETTER for everyone.
3 - If you ensure that the "cost" for the person to buy the off spec piece is worth more than the vendor, you can help ensure that it is actually used for gearing.
The only downside I can see would be for enchanters which would lose out on the possibility of gaining an item to DE. (disenchant) Although, thinking about it, maybe they could "pay for the need"...
OK, maybe this would be better:
1 - Need for main spec - just click and roll
2 - "Need for a Fee" - if no one rolled for their main spec, then ANYONE can roll need, BUT, if they win, they MUST pay each of the other raiders 5 gold.
3 - Greed for the rest
Hmmm.. that could actually work. EVERYONE can make out.
- Main specs get the chance to gear up.
- Off spec get the chance to gear up, for a modest fee
- Enchanters can get "high value" DE items at reasonable cost
- Everyone else gets hard cash, ideally more than the vendor value, so they make out.
It's a lot simpler than some of the "Gold DKP" runs I've seen mentioned (at Spinksville) which I think are neat ideas in their own right. It *should* benefit everyone in getting gold (possibly extra gold?), and should still let everyone gear up ASAP.
What do you think?
Wednesday, December 2, 2009
You Can’t Always Get What You Want, But You Often Get What You Greed
After Dinging 80 last week, I had some time to run around and try to run a couple raids and whatnot. Needless to say, it’s been a bit of an eye opening experience.
First was an attempt at ToC, 5 man heroic.
A really well geared guildie tried to help us out, but since this is a tough fight for even moderately geared 80’s and we had us two n00bs, and a couple “so-so" geared others, it was a lost cause. We went home with our tails between our legs.
We then did the herioc run though Nexus.
And here I emphasize RUN through. Our Tank & a DK DPS were both pretty well geared, and pretty familiar with the fight. We had Kattastrophe healing with her Shammy, and a Shadow Priest helping with DPS. (The Priest was the friend of a friend, the DK was a guildie, and the Tank was a PuG)
During the raid, Katt & the Priest were struggling to keep mana’d up between fights. As soon as one was completed, the Tank & DK were already pulling the next group.
This didn’t really hurt until we ran into Grand Magus Telestra. Me, Katt & the Priest got worked and had to run back. I’m still not sure if the DK & tank died or not (I think the DK survived to fight all by himself)
Needless to say, Katt was livid, since the semi-wipe would have been avoided if mana hadn’t been an issue.
The good news is that the rest of the run went off without a hitch. I didn’t get any gear worth remembering.
Then we went on to run 5 man ToC, normal.
We ran this in a PuG, and it went pretty well. I was killed once, I think, but we did OK. I got the Helm of the Violent Fray . A pretty good run, and some lootz! (I also ran it a second time some time later. No loot, but at least I'm learning the fight)
My next to last run was Heroic Violet Hold.
We did this with me, Kattastrophe, a tank we knew, a DPS warrior that Katt knew, and his wife, the Priest I mentioned above. I really enjoyed running with these guys!
We forgot to set it to heroic when we started so we had to exit and re-enter, but other than that it went really well. I even got the best piece of plate loot in the place! (a tank piece; Bolstered Legplates )
Some interesting DPS info, that I’ll discuss in a later post (I hope)
Last we ran Culling of Stratholme, heroic. (same group as last time)
This was neat on a BUNCH of levels. It was a longer one, and we got to meet Arthas! (and let him die a couple times muhahahah! Erm, booo…)
I’m not much into the lore of the game, mainly because so much of what happens is shown to us in small snippets here & there, completely disjoint and with no easy way to remember it. It doesn’t help that I barely ran any of the old world instances either. Here, however we got to see the events of the past in full recreating. VERY COOL!!!
We only had one issue; the tank DCed a few times and contributed to Arthas dieing a couple times. It wasn’t catastrophic, and he’s a really neat guy to play with, so no worries. :)
Oh, and I got one piece of loot: Legplates of Steel Implants. a decent piece of DPS plate.
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So, I’ve finally dipped my feet into the deeeep water that is raiding, even if it’s only a toe. The longer instances are better, except that they’re so long! (hard to fit them into the life schedule) I can see why folks get a bit annoyed with running the various ToC iterations, over & over & over again. But hey, badges is badges, loot is loot, and and above all, learning to raid/play is paramount.
The quest for lootz continues…
First was an attempt at ToC, 5 man heroic.
A really well geared guildie tried to help us out, but since this is a tough fight for even moderately geared 80’s and we had us two n00bs, and a couple “so-so" geared others, it was a lost cause. We went home with our tails between our legs.
We then did the herioc run though Nexus.
And here I emphasize RUN through. Our Tank & a DK DPS were both pretty well geared, and pretty familiar with the fight. We had Kattastrophe healing with her Shammy, and a Shadow Priest helping with DPS. (The Priest was the friend of a friend, the DK was a guildie, and the Tank was a PuG)
During the raid, Katt & the Priest were struggling to keep mana’d up between fights. As soon as one was completed, the Tank & DK were already pulling the next group.
This didn’t really hurt until we ran into Grand Magus Telestra. Me, Katt & the Priest got worked and had to run back. I’m still not sure if the DK & tank died or not (I think the DK survived to fight all by himself)
Needless to say, Katt was livid, since the semi-wipe would have been avoided if mana hadn’t been an issue.
The good news is that the rest of the run went off without a hitch. I didn’t get any gear worth remembering.
Then we went on to run 5 man ToC, normal.
We ran this in a PuG, and it went pretty well. I was killed once, I think, but we did OK. I got the Helm of the Violent Fray . A pretty good run, and some lootz! (I also ran it a second time some time later. No loot, but at least I'm learning the fight)
My next to last run was Heroic Violet Hold.
We did this with me, Kattastrophe, a tank we knew, a DPS warrior that Katt knew, and his wife, the Priest I mentioned above. I really enjoyed running with these guys!
We forgot to set it to heroic when we started so we had to exit and re-enter, but other than that it went really well. I even got the best piece of plate loot in the place! (a tank piece; Bolstered Legplates )
Some interesting DPS info, that I’ll discuss in a later post (I hope)
Last we ran Culling of Stratholme, heroic. (same group as last time)
This was neat on a BUNCH of levels. It was a longer one, and we got to meet Arthas! (and let him die a couple times muhahahah! Erm, booo…)
I’m not much into the lore of the game, mainly because so much of what happens is shown to us in small snippets here & there, completely disjoint and with no easy way to remember it. It doesn’t help that I barely ran any of the old world instances either. Here, however we got to see the events of the past in full recreating. VERY COOL!!!
We only had one issue; the tank DCed a few times and contributed to Arthas dieing a couple times. It wasn’t catastrophic, and he’s a really neat guy to play with, so no worries. :)
Oh, and I got one piece of loot: Legplates of Steel Implants. a decent piece of DPS plate.
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So, I’ve finally dipped my feet into the deeeep water that is raiding, even if it’s only a toe. The longer instances are better, except that they’re so long! (hard to fit them into the life schedule) I can see why folks get a bit annoyed with running the various ToC iterations, over & over & over again. But hey, badges is badges, loot is loot, and and above all, learning to raid/play is paramount.
The quest for lootz continues…
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Monday, November 30, 2009
I've Finally Made it to the House of Fun! It's Madness!
Yep, I dinged 80.I did so on the pentultimate (I think) quest with Thorim (poor guy!)
And now comes the long slow progression for better gear. (or should I say grind?)
Yeah, maybe grind is a better word, since getting the gear necessitates a fair bit of grinding:
- for stone keeper shards
- for emblems (heroic, valiant, etc)
- more rep (Hodir, Oracles, etc)
- Argent tourney factions and emblems (btw, do all factions offer the same gear?)
- ToC
- ToC
- ToC
- other raids that I'm geared well enough for
- mats for crafting a couple more pieces of armor (1 titansteel bar per day - ick)
I know for a HUGE portion of WoW players, dinging 80 is the START of the game. Me? Well, let's say I'm a bit ambivalent about it. From an "achievement" point of view (the real meaning, not the little pop-ups you get in-game) I'm VERY happy I made it. It's been a loooong long road.
The downside? For the last couple months, WoW has been a LOT of grinding. Rep for Kurenai (for the mounts), rep for sporregar (for that shield, AND the pet) for the Netherwing (yep, more mounts) Now, it looks like I will have to do.... more grinding! And not just for cool mounts (that netherdrak is frikkin awesome!) but to get decent/good gear.
The good side? Katt & I have found a guild that seems to be a pretty close fit. We're still very much the outsiders, but seems really nice. We;ve run a few small raids with them, Pugs and friends and it seems fun. (does everybody treat a raid like it's a race?!?!? lol)
I've already started to collect (and gem & enchant) some better gear, though I have a LOOONG way to go to even be "adequate".
The majority of the dailies aren't too bad, since they're pretty quick, though a couple (Argent and Hodir) ones can be a bit slow. And the gold you get from doing them is pretty nice (I've been getting 200 gold an evening, including the profit from any items sold)
I'll post more of a sit-rep later, since this is getting a tad long...
One last topic before I wrap this up: the Thanksgiving quests.
I DID complete my mission impossible, though not without further incident. (NOT of the Horde kind). While hiding inside a Furlbog disguise is cool, it can also hide the fact that you are (or are not) in the proper Pilgrim outfit. Needless to say, it was after I finished stopping by all 4 Horde cities (and didn't get the achie) that I realized that I had been improperly garbed in 3 of them (DOH!)
I eventually got my Turkey (and my Title) in a pretty fun holiday celebration. *golf clap for Blizzard*
Oh, and I got a letter back from my Undercity killer. (she?) was VERY nice about it and even appologized. Evidently she had just gotten ganked herself and had the urge for payback. I responded back with a "not a prob, I *was* flagged after all. lol"
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
Mission Impossible... Pilgrim's Peril
*Cue Music* LINKY
Your mission, if you chose to accept it, is to infiltrate the four major Horde cities and sit at their thanksgiving table.
The chances of death and humiliation is extreme. Use all of your available assets.
As with most dangerous solo missions, disguise is key. In this instance we will use Dartol's Rod of Transformation
Disguise: Check.
Aggressive, spikey armor and growly "Hordish" Bear: Check. (I had to borrow 200 gold to buy the bear lol)

THE DISGUISE WORKED!!!!!!

uh, no it didn't....
(but I did get a chance to sit before I died! lol)
I actually logged off, logged in as a Hordie and sent a nice (if sad) note to my killer. I haven't checked yet to see if I got a response...
As of now, I am starting my own meme that IS a meme: no sad panda, just a sad furlbog.
So I trudged off to silvermoon (which doesn't get you flagged for going to the table)
Yes, I am actually sitting here, but the "camera" angle I chose, to best show Silvermoon, also happened to hide me behind the centerpiece... .
A couple things of note:
- I was able to get both the Ghostlands and Eversong Woods without incident. Well, I got flagged twice, but no deaths (on either side) resulted. Though a couple low level Hordies probably messed their shorts. (If the horde actually wore skivvies ;P )
- I tried to get to Silvermoon by see. You can't. I went out to sea north of Brill, and I fiollowed the coast all the way North, East and South and the FIRST place you can re-enter the continent of the Eastern Kingdoms is EASTERN PLAGUELANDS!! meh. A waste of 10 minutes and a water walking potion.
Tonight I shall continue to on Thunder Bluff and Orgrimmar... stay tuned!
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Friday, November 20, 2009
Raid-eee-Days.... Food for Thought...

If you've been browsing wow forums and blogs for a while, even if you're nowhere near level 80, I'm sure you've heard much-a-doo about "Raid Food".
What is "Raid Food"?
It's food eaten by high level characters (level 70 and up) that provides more than just replenishing health. It takes 10 full seconds to be applied. The Fish Feast above is one of the more popular raid foods because it provides stamina (health), mana, attack power and spell power, which are usable for pretty much every player class and talent out there. It's high level, because you need to be a level 70 or higher to eat it. But clearly, it's a pretty awesome munchie, and the buff is it's own class ("well fed") and can exist in addition to spell buffs, blessings, potions scrolls and other effects.
Feasts are foods that feed more than one person: they usually feed an entire group or party.
But I'll let you in on a very poorly kept, but rarely acted upon, tidbit of info: "raid food" exists for all levels of players.
Take the food item below; Beer Basted Boar Ribs.

If you have taken up cooking, it's probably likely that you never bothered to make it, or if you did, did you notice that it provides a buff to stamina and spirit, as well as the normal health return? One other thing to note is that many "buff foods" require 2 separate ingredients to make, or require single, annoying to get, ingredients.
A full list of Buff foods is HERE, on wowwiki.com. It lists the foods, as well as the buffs you get from each, as well as the level needed to eat them.
So, not only can cooking help you out when you get to higher levels, but there are some clear benefits to "cooking well" and "eating well" as you level.
Bon apetit!
Raid for the Cure - a BLAST!
in Shadow Glen to a growing group of pink...
we streamed through Dolanaar
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Blogging life with a Polaroid
I've been busy in Azeroth, but haven't accomplished much, and haven't been able to coherently put thoughts onto electrons for a real post, but I wanted to link to another blog.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/15131.html
By Chris Higgins.
This blogger ran across a website with THOUSANDS of posted pictures, taken one per day, over the course of 18 years. The pictures were taken by another gentleman, and the linked blog takes you through some of them and a lot of commentary.
One of the more touching things I've read lately, and might lead some of you to pull a Kleenex or two. Both the original website and that blog are the epitome of sharing life via the web.
(many of you may have already seen this, but it's new to me,)
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/15131.html
By Chris Higgins.
This blogger ran across a website with THOUSANDS of posted pictures, taken one per day, over the course of 18 years. The pictures were taken by another gentleman, and the linked blog takes you through some of them and a lot of commentary.
One of the more touching things I've read lately, and might lead some of you to pull a Kleenex or two. Both the original website and that blog are the epitome of sharing life via the web.
(many of you may have already seen this, but it's new to me,)
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